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Learn Thai from a White Guy - Update

  • Aug 24, 2008
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This blog lives on below at :

http://learnthaifromawhiteguy.com/


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The Rules

  • Mar 10, 2008
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Rule #1 You need to learn the alphabet.  This includes the consonant classes, the tone marks and how to work out all the rules.
If you don't do this you won't every be able to pronounce anything properly.

Rule #2 You need to be reading every day.  Even one sentence is better than being lazy and doing nothing all day. 
Do whatever you can handle and there is no need to do it in one sitting. Spread it out over the day.  Most days read stuff that 
you are already interested in.  Now and then, read other stuff just for variety.  

Rule #3 Listen everyday, as much as possible  Anything that is real language.  We want to keep away from manufactured teaching materials as much as possible.  
That stuff rarely resembles real langauge.  

Rule #4  Setup and USE an SRS.  It will make everything easier.  I'm partial to Anki at the moment.  Learn about SRS's and how do use them effectively here.  Khatzumoto has some great ideas and strategies which work for any language.


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Consistency is Key

  • Apr 15, 2007
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Learning languages isn't hard.  Kids do it right?  Hell, babies do it.  We are smarter than babies right?  The biggest obstacle to language learning is that you just don't believe you can do it.  Somewhere along the line you allowed yourself to be convinced that learning a new language was too hard for YOU.  Its just nonsense.  Its easy.  I learned to speak 4 more than I started with in as many years.  It doesn't take a genius to learn a language.  Stupid people tend to be able to talk just fine.  I hear them each and every day. 

The main thing that you need to accept when you begin to learn a language is that its going to take a long time.  You can't learn a language in a day, a week or a month.  Its going to probably take a year before you can stop sounding like a fob tourist, but perhaps not depending where you are and how you go about it.  

Obviously taking a class is a good idea.  Most people don't have the self-disicipline to do anything every day if there is no outside pressure (grades, parents, money, hygeine, etc) looming over us.  The same applies for me.  I kind of gave up on Japanese for a while because I couldn't find a decent teacher and I wasn't getting any chances to use it.  I still focused on learning the Kanji through James Heisig's method with the assistance of kanji.koohii.com and I'm doing pretty well with that. But then recently, I have sorda had this Japanese กิ๊ก so I've been trying to take advantage of that situation to get my Japanese back into action.  For Chinese, I have class 2 nights a week so that gives me something, but never enough.  For Korean, I study three times a week and my teacher occasionally beats me, but not nearly as much as she used to thankfully.  I do Cantonese when I have time and motivation, but I don't know anybody who speaks Cantonese so that language is always on the backburner.  As for Thai, I just try to read stuff once or twice a week when I'm exercising or eating or whatever so I'm always being exposed to new vocab that nobody ever says, but its written everywhere. 

My favorite trick which I strongly recommend to all my students - carry a small notepad and a pencil with you all of the time.  When you are in a situation where you want to say something and either you can't figure it out or are just shy or whatever, write it down!  Then ask a few people how to say it.  If you know non-natives who speak the language better than you, they are generally a much better resource than a native - contrary to popular belief.  They can explain the proper usage of the word/phrase and hopefully give examples of situations in which it is used.  Never forget that native speakers generally have no idea how they learned their own language.  I don't.  But I remember exactly how I learned the other 4 and I can do it again.   I am not a big fan of teaching English, but I occasionally do it because I get paid well for it because I speak Thai like really (as opposed to the whitey equiv of a coolie). 

So I always carry my pad and I never guess.  I'm too embarrassed if I screw up, so I just write down whatever I wanted to say and figure out later how to say it.  Then if I can, I try to create a situation where I can use the new information so it sticks in my mind.  If you don't use it....well you know what happens.  When I am waiting around for elevators,taxis, friends, etc - I review whatever crap is written in my notepad.  A few quick glances during the day and I remember at least half of what goes in the notepad.  I go through a notepad in about 2 months and I have old ones scattered all over my room.  Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Indonesian, Thai, Burmese, Cantonese, Korean, and more.  You can find random bits of knowledge all over my room.  And plenty of that knowlege got into my head and stayed there.  Just buy the damn notepad.  Its like a dollar.  Use it every day for a year and call me in the morning.  It works better than any gadget.

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In the beginning...

  • Apr 7, 2007
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I study languages.  I speak at least 5 of them, although at times I wouldn't consider myself fluent in all of them.  I'm not really 100% clear on what fluency really entails so I just like to say I speak lots of languages.  I can hold real conversations in at least 5 and I can pretend to impress people in a few others. 

I have begun this blog for me more than for you.  I need to focus my efforts and become more efficient in my progress.  I get lazy when I can't find a good (or at least malleable) teachers in a language I tend to flounder as I just don't have enough self-discipline for constant progress without someone to help keep me in check.  Hopefully, by me spending a little time recording my daily methods and progress I can further improve on my methods and ultimately become more efficient.  If it helps you in the meantime, well, good stuff for you too then.


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